Converting GH3 tracks to FOF - New format used in GH3 ?

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Postby nwru » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:46 pm

Bigern1990 wrote:Where can I download playable versions of the songs, even fi they are retarded, I can alsways delete them later and would like to help test stuff out if possible.

If there were a place to download them, where would they be? The Tune Posting forum! =)

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Postby VenomAK » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:01 pm

Haha, I was so focused on this thread I didn't check the other forums.
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Postby Capo » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:30 pm

Oh well, I posted this in the tune posting forum, but I'll just repost it here.

Of course there are bpm changes, I can safely say that black magic woman has a huge tempo change on the last part of the song, the beginning has a lower bpm, and on the last minute or two (sorry, didn't pay much attention) the bpm is way higher. Paranoid seems to have a static bpm all along, or at least it doesn't have such radical changes, even in the solo. You might wanna compare those files.


Btw, black magic woman is probably around 100-120 bpm and in the last part it's way higher than that.
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Postby Kariodude » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:35 am

I know it doesn't concern most people here, but I've been watching this because I want to put custom songs on GH3. Any chance of there being a VGS > MSV converter or a MID > PAK converter?
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Postby tma » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:53 am

Kariodude wrote:I know it doesn't concern most people here, but I've been watching this because I want to put custom songs on GH3. Any chance of there being a VGS > MSV converter or a MID > PAK converter?

Heh, yes, of course it's possible, but one step at a time, eh? :)
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Postby YMS » Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:17 pm

In case somebody is interessted in it, I have fixed a little bug in my converter, which destroyed rhythm + coop tracks in "One" and "Through Fire And Flames". Here's the new version, including those MIDIs:

http://uploaded.to/?id=uv5xtt

Anyway, I'm expecting new format specs from dgendreau soon - it seems he has figured out tempo and stuff.
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Postby st0ffe123 » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:48 pm

Big up for all who's working hard on this
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Postby Evil Ken » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:27 pm

YMS wrote:In case somebody is interessted in it, I have fixed a little bug in my converter, which destroyed rhythm + coop tracks in "One" and "Through Fire And Flames". Here's the new version, including those MIDIs:

http://uploaded.to/?id=uv5xtt

Anyway, I'm expecting new format specs from dgendreau soon - it seems he has figured out tempo and stuff.

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Postby Kariodude » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:35 pm

I read through and couldn't find it. What is the best way to extract the contents of the WAD and then rebuild it. I read somewhere along the way that the Tony Hawk 2 Extractor thing doesn't extract them correctly.
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Postby tma » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:39 pm

Kariodude wrote:I read through and couldn't find it. What is the best way to extract the contents of the WAD and then rebuild it. I read somewhere along the way that the Tony Hawk 2 Extractor thing doesn't extract them correctly.

The WAD can be extracted with the python scripts that Pudding supplied (here: https://www.fretsonfire.org/cgi-bin....15282).

AFIAK there isn't a tool to rebuild it at this stage.
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Postby Ihatecompvir » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:13 pm

It should be noted that if you import the ripped MID and OGG files correctly in GHEX it will work.
FLAWLESSLY.
Also, "Bass" is the Devil's Track. So, you and your friend can "Face off" in Gh2.
So, GH3 charts are not that different.
Also, you MUST Import it to a song that has all the channels otherwise if you don't import Bass the Devil has NO(I repeat!) No sound.
ALSO:
If you import "One" it has LOADS of Custom HOPO Thresholds that are events (but don't work in GH2)
Also,
http://www.gnmidi.com/
When Importing "One"
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Postby debr5836 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:14 am

Moonflow43 wrote:i'm not sure if someone already said it but look at number of the beast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e39D8VBQ4sw

at about 1:04 in the video, you can see dramatic bpm changes, i've seen little ones but this one IS noticeable by far, haha

I haven't spent much time on this, but I think they just coded a "time signature" track and a "beat" track.

For example, a bit after the bass/rhythm track for NotB, I find this:

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          155967       156262       156557
          156852       157147       157440
          157734       158027       158320
          158614       158907       159201
          159494       159788       160081
          160374       160667       160960
          161254       161545       161837
          162128       162420       162715
          163012       163309       163606
          163904       164201       164498
          164797       165097       165397
          165697       165997       166297
          166597       166897       167194
          167487       167780       168075
          168369       168664       168959
          169253       169548       169842
          170137       170428       170717
          171006       171295       171585
          171874       172163       172452
          172742       173031       173321
          173610       173899       174189
          174478       174768       175052
          175334       175615       175897
          176179       176461       176742
          177024       177308       177594
          177879       178165       178451
          178736       179022       179308
          179593       179879       180164
          180450       180736       181021
          181307       181592       181877
          182161       182445       182729
          183012       183296       183580
          183864       184148       184432
          184716       185000       185284
          185567       185851       186135
          186420       186706       186992
          187278       187564       187850
          188136       188421       188707
          188993       189279       189565
          189851       190137       190422
          190708       190994       191279
          191565       191850       192135
          192421       192706       192991
          193277       193562       193848
          194133       194418       194704
          194989       195274       195559
          195843       196127       196411
          196695       196980       197264
          197548       197832       198116
          198400       198684       198968
          199252       199536       199835
          200140       200445       200750
          201056       201361       201666
          201971       202272       202570
          202868       203167       203465
          203763       204061       204360
          204658       204955       205253
          205551       205849       206146
          206444       206742       207038
          207332       207627       207921
          208216       208510       208805
          209099       209398       209699
          210000       210300       210601
          210902       211203       211504
          211804       212105       212406
          212707       213008       213308
          213609       213910       214209
          214507       214805       215103
          215401       215699       215997
          216295       216593       216891
          217189       217487       217785
          218083       218381       218679
          218977       219271       219564
          219856       220149       220441
          220733       221025       221316
          221608       221899       222191
          222482       222774       223066
          223357       223649       223939
          224228       224517       224807
          225096       225386       225675
          225964       226254       226543
          226832       227130       227431
          227732       228038       228338
          228640       228943       229245
          229547       229849       230151
          230453       230745       231038
          231333       231642       231935
          232232       232535       232837
          233140       233442       233738
          234032       234325       234619
          234918       235220       235520
          235821       236121       236421
          236720       237018       237316
          237614       237913       238213
          238512       238812       239112
          239412       239717       240014
          240308       240602       240911
          241217       241520       241823
          242126       242429       242721
          243010       243298       243586
          243884       244184       244484
          244783       245083       245383
          245681       245979       246277
          246572       246867       247174
          247476       247775       248074
          248373       248675       248977
          249280       249583       249885
          250188       250490       250792
          251095       251397       251699
          252001       252303       252604
          252906       253208       253509
          253811       253960       254108
          254256       254545       254832
          255119       255406       255693
          255980       256267       256554
          256840       257140       257289
          257437       257585       257870
          258153       258435       258717
          258999       259282       259564
          259846       260129       260411
          260556       260705       260853
          261131       261403       261676
          261948       262221       262493
          262766       263038       263311
          263601       263896       264191
          264486       264781       265075
          265370       265665       265960
          266255       266549


That first track looks like a time signature track, and the second track looks like a "beat" track (look around the 3/8 measure at 53700 and you can totally see it).

Thus, I'm thinking the whole qb file is coded at a constant tempo, but they use the beat track to deal with the fluctuations in tempo throughout the song.

Agree?

Also note that the tempo here isn't 480 ticks pqn.
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Postby tma » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:39 am

debr5836 wrote:I haven't spent much time on this, but I think they just coded a "time signature" track and a "beat" track.

*SNIP*

That first track looks like a time signature track, and the second track looks like a "beat" track (look around the 3/8 measure at 53700 and you can totally see it).

Thus, I'm thinking the whole qb file is coded at a constant tempo, but they use the beat track to deal with the fluctuations in tempo throughout the song.

Agree?

Also note that the tempo here isn't 480 ticks pqn.

I think you're right, the numbers all seem to match up.

It's been mentioned earlier in the thread that the tracks seem to be fixed at 125bpm, I'm not sure how many ticks that's meant to be per quarter note... is this what you mean by 480 ticks? (My midi understanding is still fledgling).

I believe I've discovered where the star power phrases are defined.

The first 4 lists define the note charts or E,M,H,X.

Directly after this are 4 sets of multi-lists. These appear to define the start and end of each star power phrase, for each difficulty.

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file: tutorial_2b.mid.qb.ps2
star power phrases: 4

(0x047C)
00 04 0C 00 - Track ID
A3 C5 41 D6
64 A5 A3 61
90 04 00 00 - offset
00 00 00 00
===
(0x0490)
00 01 0C 00 - Multi-list header
04 00 00 00 - 4 entries
9C 04 00 00
===
(0x049C)
AC 04 00 00 - entry 1 offset
C4 04 00 00 - entry 2 offset
DC 04 00 00 - etc
F4 04 00 00
===
(0x04AC)
00 01 01 00
03 00 00 00
B8 04 00 00 - offset
(0x04B8)
0B 11 00 00 - star phrase 1 start (corresponds with first note in easy chart)
8E 21 00 00 - length of phrase
05 00 00 00 - number of notes
===
(0x04C4)
00 01 01 00
03 00 00 00
D0 04 00 00 - offset
(0x04D0)
22 33 00 00 - SP 2 start
8E 21 00 00 - length
05 00 00 00 - number of notes
===
(0x04DC)
00 01 01 00
03 00 00 00
E8 04 00 00
(0x04E8)
3A 55 00 00 - SP3 start
8E 21 00 00 - etc
05 00 00 00
===
(0x04F4)
00 01 01 00
03 00 00 00
00 05 00 00
(0x0500)
51 77 00 00 - SP4 start
38 24 00 00 - etc
05 00 00 00


I did a comparison with Even Flow. Even Flow has 15 phrases in Easy, and the number of entries in this list is 15 (0x0F), so I'm pretty sure this is correct. Also, the second phrase has 8 notes, which also matches up. It's curious that they have a note count, this seems unnecessary.

I suspect that the HO/POs will be a similar set of events.
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Postby tma » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:56 am

Can someone tell me if there are 29 SP phrases for the co-op player on Even Flow? I only have access to the Xbox Live demo at the moment, which doesn't have co-op.

Edit: never mind, I think there are 29 battle phrases. The battle phrases follow the same format as the star power phrases, and are between the SP phrases section and the rhythm/bass notes section.

To confirm this though, can someone tell me if there are 13 (thirteen) Star Power phrases for the co-op player in Even Flow? The rhythm/bass section is followed by another section that looks like a second star power phrase section, and has 13 entries...
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Postby Moonflow43 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:05 pm

hmmmm.... awesome? i don't really know anything about time signatures >.<
can it be added into yms's converter? if there isn't any bpm changes and only time signature changes, then once those are added, all the notes would stay on the "fretboard line" beat thingys? if so, it'd make the note charts look a lot cleaner :D

also, as someone that does gh2 hacking, i'm very glad to see at least some advancement on starpower!
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