EOF 1.8RC13 - Now with Immerrock support

[italianstal1ion]

Edit: And it's time for another beta release. Changes since 1.8b33:

*Redesigned the beat creation logic during Feedback import so that mid beat tempo and time signature changes are handled correctly.

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss thank you

also great job on the other updated stuff too

edit: Is there a way to make "Page Up" go forward instead of backward in the song?

[Asskickulater]

Did you remove the ability to run two instances of eof?

[raynebc]

Nope, I am able to open two copies of the 1.8b34 release at once and copy paste between them. Are you not able to do the same? Do you get any errors or strange logging?

edit: Is there a way to make "Page Up" go forward instead of backward in the song?

I think somebody asked before why page up seeks backward instead of forward, but I couldn't remember where that was. It might be a pretty niche feature, but it would probably take less than a dozen lines of code, so I could probably make a user preference to swap the functionality of page up and page down in the seek controls.

[Asskickulater]

Nope, I am able to open two copies of the 1.8b34 release at once and copy paste between them. Are you not able to do the same? Do you get any errors or strange logging?

edit: Is there a way to make "Page Up" go forward instead of backward in the song?

I think somebody asked before why page up seeks backward instead of forward, but I couldn't remember where that was. It might be a pretty niche feature, but it would probably take less than a dozen lines of code, so I could probably make a user preference to swap the functionality of page up and page down in the seek controls.

nope, Eof refuses to launch two copies, it doesn't give any errors, it just wont run two, i did get it to bring up a second window by keeping one open, and double clicking an eof file accotiated with eof, but it opened an un interactable blank Eof window.

i havent gotten B34 yet, so i'll try that soon and see if the issue still exists.

[raynebc]

If it still happens, please send me the eof log.

[raynebc]

ETA on QB section imports?

I've only tested it with a couple QB files (Hotel California, Mr. Crowley), but it looks like I finally got this working. Again, special thanks go to codemann8 at the ScoreHero forum for helping me with this.

[bluzer]

ETA on QB section imports?

I've only tested it with a couple QB files (Hotel California, Mr. Crowley), but it looks like I finally got this working. Again, special thanks go to codemann8 at the ScoreHero forum for helping me with this.

YES!! Can't wait to test it out. Also, I was trying to convert some GHVH QB files & got an error upon import. Would you like to test said files?

[raynebc]

Sure.

[Asskickulater]

1.8b34 fixed the two instance issue.

[raynebc]

Good deal. Bluzer, are you still able to send me some of the QB Guitar Hero files that don't import?

[Bigjoe5]

Without any more information, the only culprit I can suggest is that the chart has mid-beat tempo or time signature changes. EOF is hard-coded to require such changes to be at a beat marker, so during MIDI import, a beat marker is inserted if one occurs mid-beat. This causes the tempo map to be different from the original chart, and there will be noticeable timing issues. This behavior of EOF is not going to change, but I am working on a solution where the user can store the MIDI's original tempo map into the project during import and write the saved MIDIs with that tempo map when the project is saved.

Did you do this in b34? I'm pretty sure this is also what's causing my Panic Attack upgrade to go haywire, especially since EvinC apparently had no trouble with his using Ziggy's editor.

[raynebc]

Nope, not quite implemented yet but it's high on my to do list. If you provide a MIDI, I can confirm whether this is even the problem.

[Bigjoe5]

I'd provide a midi, but I've already mangled the tempo map of my upgrade to the point where it plays in game properly (but now the drum part is completely broken...). Just checking to see if the Panic Attack mid from the RB2 export has mid-beat tempo changes should be adequate to confirm if that's the problem.

[raynebc]

I looked at the notes-unedited.mid file I have for "Panic Attack" and it has several mid-beat tempo and time signature changes. Rock Band Network documentation says Harmonix discourages people from defining a tempo change more often than once per beat because doing that is unnecessary. I'd like to know why it's necessary to change it between beats, I honestly see no benefit. Nonetheless, I'll make the tempo map storage logic a priority since there's no other choice for making pro guitar/harmony/keys upgrades.

[italianstal1ion]

Sorry to bother ya, but do we have a "feedback" controls option in EOF? Or mouse free controls? I tried the other ones and I think RexMundi is the closest.

Feedback uses just a 3D interface. (no need to remove 2D, just saying what feedback does)
UP and DOWN move the guide bar to the next measure, indicated by the grid snap
LEFT and RIGHT change the grid snap settings (left for bigger grid snap, right for smaller)
The guide bar is always locked with whatever grid snap is set to (if it is 1/8th, the guide bar will only move on 1/8th notes. Pressing UP or DOWN brings you to the next closest 1/8th measure)
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 places notes on the measure that the guide bar is located.
PGup and PGdown keys move forward or backward a whole measure (depending on the time signature of course).

Like I said, RexMundi is the closest but it still places notes based on the mouse instead of the guide bar. Even if I put the mouse on the guide bar, I still don't have much control of where the guide bar goes.

I can definitely make a video of this for you. I think if EOF had mouseless control I probably wouldn't ever use feedback again.
edit: video will be ready this evening