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[PiXeLaDo]

awesome news knapster!

Get outta my mind.

*starts countdown on phone*

[SUSAltd]

WOOHOO

Now I can try out my Keyboard chart.

[fatdog]

keys are not in this version, im not sure where this idea come from

[raynebc]

I could have sworn thekiwimaddog told me that 5 lane keys were implemented, but I may be mistaken.

[thekiwimaddog]

I managed to get 5 lanes keys working but only by simply picking up on the keys track and running it through the standard guitar handler. But that was just a quick fix to see if it worked to check if the keys standard was the same as Guitar. Proper keys should be faily easy to get running when I'm finished with Real Guitar / Bass but it won't be in the next release.

@raynebc : I'm almost finished with the first phase of the theme code so I'm about to get back to looking into the RB3 MIDI standard to figure out these HOPO's and Slides. Also I fixed the chord name issue that was causing problems in your test song where some were not showing up.

Thanks
David

[raynebc]

Cool. I think most of everything in the MIDI format is figured out by now, but the more eyes, the merrier.

[thekiwimaddog]

Cool. I think most of everything in the MIDI format is figured out by now, but the more eyes, the merrier.

Have you worked out exactly how the slides work then?

[raynebc]

I posted all of the different slide markers in the RB3 MIDI spec thread, but I have not seen any kind of pattern. You might have to just check the velocity against each possible slide value, like EOF currently does:

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if((eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 104) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 105) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 106) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 107) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 108) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 109) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 112) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 115) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 116) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 117))
{   //If this note uses any of the velocities representing a slide down section
   (This is a slide down phrase)
}
else if((eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 102) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 103) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 110))
{   //If this note uses any of the velocities representing a slide up section
   (This is a slide up phrase)
}

As you can see, there are many more velocities used for down slide phrases than up slide phrases. So far, every chart I've imported and checked with this logic appeared to identify the slides correctly.

[thekiwimaddog]

I posted all of the different slide markers in the RB3 MIDI spec thread, but I have not seen any kind of pattern. You might have to just check the velocity against each possible slide value, like EOF currently does:

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if((eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 104) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 105) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 106) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 107) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 108) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 109) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 112) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 115) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 116) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 117))
{   //If this note uses any of the velocities representing a slide down section
   (This is a slide down phrase)
}
else if((eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 102) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 103) || (eof_import_events[i]->event[j]->d2 == 110))
{   //If this note uses any of the velocities representing a slide up section
   (This is a slide up phrase)
}

As you can see, there are many more velocities used for down slide phrases than up slide phrases. So far, every chart I've imported and checked with this logic appeared to identify the slides correctly.

Hmm, that's odd as I thought that the velocity was linked to the lowest velocity of the notes it's effecting.

David

[raynebc]

I haven't noticed anything like that, but it's hard to say. If I find that EOF imports any slides incorrectly, I'll investigate further.

[thekiwimaddog]

I haven't noticed anything like that, but it's hard to say. If I find that EOF imports any slides incorrectly, I'll investigate further.

I've found a few, but I'll post them in the EOF topic.

[coolguy567]

When I play, the game and the music goes slightly out of sync over time. The notes cross the strike line later than they should at the end of the song, but they're on time at the beginning. This causes me to miss a lot of notes (by playing them too late) at the end of the song. I've tried a bunch of charts including some Harmonix charts so I doubt it's a sync issue in the songs themselves, and the songs work fine in FoFiX. I've tried setting the AV delay down to compensate, but then I end up playing the notes at the beginning of the song too early. If I use the average delay option, and play according to ear, I find that at the end of the song, my average delay has dropped (become more negative) by around 20ms from its original value. My FPS is a solid 60-62, so I doubt that's the issue.

Does anyone know a fix, or is it a problem with the game itself?

[thekiwimaddog]

When I play, the game and the music goes slightly out of sync over time. The notes cross the strike line later than they should at the end of the song, but they're on time at the beginning. This causes me to miss a lot of notes (by playing them too late) at the end of the song. I've tried a bunch of charts including some Harmonix charts so I doubt it's a sync issue in the songs themselves, and the songs work fine in FoFiX. I've tried setting the AV delay down to compensate, but then I end up playing the notes at the beginning of the song too early. If I use the average delay option, and play according to ear, I find that at the end of the song, my average delay has dropped (become more negative) by around 20ms from its original value. My FPS is a solid 60-62, so I doubt that's the issue.

Does anyone know a fix, or is it a problem with the game itself?

I've never hard of this bug before but I have re-written the timing code since the last version because of some issues so it might be resolved in the next release which should hopefully be this weekend.

Thanks
David

[coolguy567]

When I play, the game and the music goes slightly out of sync over time. The notes cross the strike line later than they should at the end of the song, but they're on time at the beginning. This causes me to miss a lot of notes (by playing them too late) at the end of the song. I've tried a bunch of charts including some Harmonix charts so I doubt it's a sync issue in the songs themselves, and the songs work fine in FoFiX. I've tried setting the AV delay down to compensate, but then I end up playing the notes at the beginning of the song too early. If I use the average delay option, and play according to ear, I find that at the end of the song, my average delay has dropped (become more negative) by around 20ms from its original value. My FPS is a solid 60-62, so I doubt that's the issue.

Does anyone know a fix, or is it a problem with the game itself?

I've never hard of this bug before but I have re-written the timing code since the last version because of some issues so it might be resolved in the next release which should hopefully be this weekend.

Thanks
David

To be honest, I can't seem to reproduce the issue using the flat-keyboard controls (as opposed to upside-down keyboard) or using a bot. It could just be that my hand gets tired and I play the notes more slowly, so there's a bigger delay between when I think I play the note and when I actually play it, or something. It's just that I never noticed this in FoFiX, but I think FoFiX has a bigger timing window anyway.

[Ambiguity]

I've never hard of this bug before but I have re-written the timing code since the last version because of some issues so it might be resolved in the next release which should hopefully be this weekend.

Thanks
David

To be honest, I can't seem to reproduce the issue using the flat-keyboard controls (as opposed to upside-down keyboard) or using a bot. It could just be that my hand gets tired and I play the notes more slowly, so there's a bigger delay between when I think I play the note and when I actually play it, or something. It's just that I never noticed this in FoFiX, but I think FoFiX has a bigger timing window anyway.

The fret buttons lag when I play fullscreen in PS, maybe it's a similar issue with you. Test to see if going into windowed mode makes a difference(I suggest making the window smaller then your actual resolution).