can you chart vocals from guitar pro tabs?

[j0shuakane]

ive searched and searched and found nothing. i found tutorials to help me with guitar and drums but not vocals. has anyone done this yet? i converted it into a midi but in fruity loops its a MESS!!!

any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

regards
Josh

[acrox999]

I think you can do it by following the guitar/drums method.

[j0shuakane]

thank you, but i mean WAY more of a mess than drums or guitar. and both guitar and drums have to be aligned in their own specific way. and from the way this looks there is no way those methods will work with vocals. i mean the notes or whatever are EVERYWHERE!!!

regards
Josh

[acrox999]

Of course its everywhere. Dude, you're talking about vocals. So, you have to align them on your own. Or just chart it by ear.

[j0shuakane]

alright, i'll give it a shot. i just didnt know if there was a specific way to align them like with the instruments.

and do vocals still just c8 and the 4 lanes above it? just seems like it would use more...

regards
Josh

[raynebc]

Harmonix has noted in their RBN documentation that the vocal track is NOT quantized (grid snapped) to the beat markers. The vocal track is just a lyric event and MIDI note for each syllable, with the duration of the note matching the sung duration of the syllable. The range of note numbers is 36 to 95 (inclusive).

If you want, you can PM me a MIDI to look at, but if Guitar Pro/TuxGuitar/other tab application doesn't export in the typical KAR derivative format, then there may be little that can be done to salvage the notes/lyrics.

[lordhardware]

alright, i'll give it a shot. i just didnt know if there was a specific way to align them like with the instruments.

and do vocals still just c8 and the 4 lanes above it? just seems like it would use more...

regards
Josh

i think vocals are the entire 4th and 5th octaves last time i checked... although i dont have reaper on here so i cant check one of my songs...

[raynebc]

I stand corrected, looking at Harmonix's documentation compared to the findings of folks at ScoreHero, supposedly MIDI notes 36 to 84 (inclusive) are used (4 octaves).

[lordhardware]

I stand corrected, looking at Harmonix's documentation compared to the findings of folks at ScoreHero, supposedly MIDI notes 36 to 84 (inclusive) are used (4 octaves).

oh so its C4 - B8?

wow... why would you ever need 4 whole octaves?

[raynebc]

Because many people are capable of this range, even though the game only scores on the note, not the octave. This entire range is actually used within a single song. For example, Twisted Sister- I Wanna Rock (from GH:SH) uses vocal pitches 36 through 84.

[lordhardware]

Because many people are capable of this range, even though the game only scores on the note, not the octave. This entire range is actually used within a single song. For example, Twisted Sister- I Wanna Rock (from GH:SH) uses vocal pitches 36 through 84.

haha, i can sing three complete octaves, but i wouldnt fret it thus...

ive never had a reason to use more thn two when fretting, but its good to know its there :)

[raynebc]

Some new development regarding this issue:

I'm testing some new logic in my converter that will allow you to import vocal pitches from a MIDI even if no lyrics are given. The catch is that I have to use something as a placeholder, so the lyric "*" is used wherever a pitch is loaded, and chords are intentionally ignored since conventional solo singing is done in notes and not chords. If a chord is found in the MIDI, the first note of the chord that is defined in the MIDI is kept, and the other notes that form the chord are dropped. You'll have to ensure that the imported pitches sync to whatever song you have and are otherwise accurate in pitch and timing, but exporting to VL or Vocal Rhythm should make it pretty easy to test and correct the sync. You'll also have to add your own line breaks and lyrics. Some screen caps:



Here are the files involved in case anybody wants to look at them:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kxdl9e

I have noticed that Anvil Studio consistently displays MIDIs exported by Guitar Pro incorrectly. This 7 track MIDI, for example, opens and displays as if it is 16 tracks. Make no mistake though, the "Kyo" track has the pitches we wanted to import.

[j0shuakane]

holy crap dude!!! that really is the perfect kind of thing to get me started! and what a time saver it will be. thank you for this! (whenever you release it lol)

regards
Josh

edit: what are VL and Vocal Rythm? i googled them but they didnt turn anything up. i also searched here with no avail.

[raynebc]

VL is a lyric format used by the VividLyrics editor. Vocal Rhythm was a format that ryanpanties and I created to make it easier to chart vocals with an editor like EOF or Feedback (one fretted note per syllable, and the lyrics and pitch for each syllable is written in a separate text file).

FoF Lyric Converter thread:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31765

Vocal Rhythm thread:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=41731

[j0shuakane]

alright wow, atm vocals dont seem so hard!

so the next version of your converter will support midi files right, or the one in the link does already?

regards
Josh