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Postby jake2k3 » Tue May 08, 2007 7:45 pm

Jonathan_Antillies wrote:Oh, wait...That means destroying my X-plorer controller to make the USB connector to plug into an Xbox port.

maybe there's a USB to Xbox converter cable out there.

*Leaves to Google USB to Xbox converter cable*

EDIT: Haha! Success!!! USB to Xbox converter

You wouldn't need to buy a converter. Like the other guy said, the XBox controllers are almost identical to USB, with a different connector port. You could literally chop off the end and sauter on a usb cable.

Buying a converter would be safer (to ther controller) though.
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Postby syberdave » Tue May 08, 2007 7:45 pm

hooovahh wrote:I'm afraid we are limited to what we can do. First we could re-write FOF to C++ (which it looks like some people are trying to do) or we could have FOF in a very limited install for this purpose. What I mean is if we get rid of all unnecessary graphics, and just had the core program running in linux it may work. I don't know much about python but I will download the source and see how difficult it would be to remove some graphics.

We can always scrap PyOpengl and have FoF run with ASCII art! In a terminal!
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Postby jake2k3 » Tue May 08, 2007 7:48 pm

lol. ASCII Fof.
Recipe for disaster.
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Postby kcman13 » Tue May 08, 2007 7:50 pm

Logan812 wrote:if you could get to work on the xbox1, then could you do it for the 360?

Xbox and Xbox 360 are pretty different.
That's why they are 2 different consoles.

Right now I've read it's really hard to figure out how to even mod an xbox 360 since Microsoft uses different codes for their games. Unlike the simple PS2.
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Postby Jordan44053 » Tue May 08, 2007 9:25 pm

FoF would probably work fairly easily on the old Xbox. I have a 360, so I can't speak from experience, but I'm pretty sure you could install Linux on an old Xbox, and since there's a Linux version of Frets on Fire, it would probably work without too much of a problem. It might lag horribly, though, with its quite outdated CPU and memory.

With the 360, though, they've taken every possible approach they can, it seems, to prevent... just that.
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Postby raptor jesus » Tue May 08, 2007 10:05 pm

Buying a converter would be safer (to ther controller) though.

You could make your own using a spare break-away. That way you can use it for everything instead of just one controller.

[edit]I thought that link was FoF on Xbox :(
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Postby hooovahh » Wed May 09, 2007 1:40 pm

It seems to me that people aren't familiar with the original Xbox and what it is capable of. It can only run compiled C++ code natively. So the only program that will execute from a Xbox dashboard (like evox) is going to have to be C++ programs. I guess I'm not sure about assembly language, but I assume that would work too since it just sends basic commands to a P3 processor. But that's just crazy.

So the only way to run FOF is to re-write it in C++ code, or have the xbox boot to another operating system that accepts python. I would prefer the C++ because running linux will eat up system resources, then running FOF will take more, and most likely be laggy.

Yes the xbox controller port is simply a USB plug (different shape of course) and there is one extra wire which was never really used. So if you want to plugin a USB mouse or keyboard you can hack it up shown here.

http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Mods/creating_a_dual_usb_adapter.htm

Or buy the adapter here.

http://www.llamma.com/xbox/ShoppingCart/cables_and_adapters.htm

I have little to no coding experience, all of mine is in LabVIEW and Java, so could some one just come up with the basic concept written in C++, then compile it using Open XDK

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openxdk/

Then post it and we can see what happens.
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Postby raptor jesus » Wed May 09, 2007 6:30 pm

Why not create a python emulator for xbox?
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Postby hooovahh » Thu May 10, 2007 9:47 am

Well actually there does exist such a thing but it's very basic. Not sure how familiar you are with XBMC (Xbox Media Center) but it does support very basic python scripts. It also does allow adding more libraries as mentioned here.

http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/forum....count=2

However this is the extent of my knowledge. I did some quick searching around that forum and didn't find much but every one is welcome to search.
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Postby raptor jesus » Thu May 10, 2007 6:53 pm

I completely forgot XBMC having python scripts. Although, I only did use them to watch videos XD
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Postby hooovahh » Fri May 11, 2007 11:45 am

Yeah like I said I know very little about XBMC, just that it does support some python scripts...like tetris...and a snake game...and video playing.

So I doubt using XBMC will solve this problem. I know nothing about python but I did download the source. Any one willing to take out all the unnecessary parts then we can atleast try it.
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Postby Air Guitar Hero » Fri May 11, 2007 12:20 pm

I can't believe this topic is still going, it's not going to happen anytime soon, if ever.
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Postby raptor jesus » Fri May 11, 2007 5:10 pm

Why do you say that? Do you even have knowledge of Xbox modding? Stoofoo and leave kthnx.
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Postby hooovahh » Mon May 14, 2007 12:42 pm

I wouldn't say ever...but yeah since the xbox is reaching the end of its gaming career, development for home brewed games will also slow down.

Still and all I wanted to post my knowledge on the subject and how (if at all) it would be possible to get FOF on the original xbox.

I am still hopeful that it will be done, but it would take alot of work.

BTW raptor jesus your avatar is hypnotic.
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