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Postby vedicardi » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:01 am

maybe that's why I could never get into tech death wankery lol
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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby mrstuprigge » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:07 am

the only good song ever written was the zoo by the scorpions. all other music is pretty much terrible.


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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby Electro Tomato » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:27 am

mrstuprigge wrote:the only good song ever written was the zoo by the scorpions. all other music is pretty much terrible.

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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby Nathaniel607 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:31 pm

Electro Tomato wrote:There seems to be this cesspool opinion that complexity and technicality equate to good music, which is bullsh*t. I'd rather listen to a poppy Ultra Saturday song that conveys emotions well and correctly than some circle wanking over-the-top tech death that's only made to show how fast he can play and how many time changes he can memorize.


If someone understand how music works, they can actually write original songs to evoke emotions. As opposed to a lot of pop/rock writers who just go;

I-V-IV
or
I-II-III
or I-V-VI-IV

Then writing a throwaway melody on top and some basic rock beat drums.

Yes, complexity CAN be overdone. Usually when you hear this (for example in "wanky" death metal) it's not usually really technical, but just shredding over some chords (or being atonal). Having actual complexity can make song very interesting as long as it's used properly.
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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby Electro Tomato » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:03 pm

Nathaniel607 wrote:
Electro Tomato wrote:There seems to be this cesspool opinion that complexity and technicality equate to good music, which is bullsh*t. I'd rather listen to a poppy Ultra Saturday song that conveys emotions well and correctly than some circle wanking over-the-top tech death that's only made to show how fast he can play and how many time changes he can memorize.


If someone understand how music works, they can actually write original songs to evoke emotions. As opposed to a lot of pop/rock writers who just go;

I-V-IV
or
I-II-III
or I-V-VI-IV

Then writing a throwaway melody on top and some basic rock beat drums.

Yes, complexity CAN be overdone. Usually when you hear this (for example in "wanky" death metal) it's not usually really technical, but just shredding over some chords (or being atonal). Having actual complexity can make song very interesting as long as it's used properly.


Yeah, but it isn't required. I hate how people will talk about the simplicity of pop, and then give some retarded math rock counter example as what is objectively good music. As long as the emotions are correctly conveyed, I don't care if you're playing three chords
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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby Jama7301 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:09 pm

Audioslave's Be Yourself is pretty damn simple, yet the way it's done carries a lot of weight.
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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby vedicardi » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:17 pm

Electro Tomato wrote:
Nathaniel607 wrote:
Electro Tomato wrote:There seems to be this cesspool opinion that complexity and technicality equate to good music, which is bullsh*t. I'd rather listen to a poppy Ultra Saturday song that conveys emotions well and correctly than some circle wanking over-the-top tech death that's only made to show how fast he can play and how many time changes he can memorize.


If someone understand how music works, they can actually write original songs to evoke emotions. As opposed to a lot of pop/rock writers who just go;

I-V-IV
or
I-II-III
or I-V-VI-IV

Then writing a throwaway melody on top and some basic rock beat drums.

Yes, complexity CAN be overdone. Usually when you hear this (for example in "wanky" death metal) it's not usually really technical, but just shredding over some chords (or being atonal). Having actual complexity can make song very interesting as long as it's used properly.


Yeah, but it isn't required. I hate how people will talk about the simplicity of pop, and then give some retarded math rock counter example as what is objectively good music. As long as the emotions are correctly conveyed, I don't care if you're playing three chords


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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby warhol » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:47 am

whats a ramones
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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby mrstuprigge » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:24 am

warhol wrote:whats a ramones


they beat on brats, go to a rock n' roll high school, and the kkk took their babies away...i think.


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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby Electro Tomato » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:30 pm

mrstuprigge wrote:
warhol wrote:whats a ramones


they beat on brats, go to a rock n' roll high school, and the kkk took their babies away...i think.

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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby aander91 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:58 am

All metal is violent.
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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby tibiazak » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:37 pm

Saying music should not be violent is like saying books should not be violent. Look at most (if not all) of the classic novels: anything by Dickens, or Tolkien, Moby D*ck (stupid word censors), 1984... all these books have violence in some form or another - and they're classics. Why? Because the violence isn't there just for the sake of violence, it's there to prove/make a point. Music can (and should!) be violent when it needs to be to get the songwriter's point across. Should it be excessively violent for no reason? I don't think so.
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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby thebocaj » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:53 pm

tibiazak wrote:Saying music should not be violent is like saying books should not be violent. Look at most (if not all) of the classic novels: anything by Dickens, or Tolkien, Moby D*ck (stupid word censors), 1984... all these books have violence in some form or another - and they're classics. Why? Because the violence isn't there just for the sake of violence, it's there to prove/make a point. Music can (and should!) be violent when it needs to be to get the songwriter's point across. Should it be excessively violent for no reason? I don't think so.


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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby tibiazak » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:24 pm

thebocaj wrote:We've got goregrind for that anyway. :p


Reason number 45897852234 why I don't listen to anything with "grind" attached to it.

Back on topic: Any "grind" genre (grindcore, goregrind, etc) is literally just "LETS MAKE AS MUCH NOISE WITH AS MUCH DISTORTION AS POSSIBLE AND SCREAM OFFENSIVE STUFF".
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Re: Music stereotypes

Postby Jama7301 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:50 pm

aander91 wrote:All metal is violent.

That's why it's called "metal" and not "styrofoam"
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