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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

Postby kilipeti » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:54 am

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I know a lot of you don't care much for classical music, but I think that the Kodàly cello sonata is very technically demanding. The short excerpt above might not look very difficult, but is actually very difficult on cello.

It requires a really weird hand position and also you have to be able to press the strings with your index, middle, and ring fingers and strum chords with your pinky (and at the same time, playing a note with the bow). And because a normal human's pinky is connected to the ring finger via a ligament, attempting to play this part kinda hurts.

Also if your humming the excerpt in your head and wondering why it sounds weird, it's because there's a scordatura.

yes, as for technicallity classical music will always own the whole thing and sh.its into the face :) I know pretty much well.
And to be proud, Kodály was Hungarian just like me so thank you to mention him. :)

However, as I earlier said, we should stay at "light music", metal genre inside.

-- Edit: Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:02 am --

vedicardi wrote:Jazz?

Note how they're seemingly playing out of time at the end of the video and Gene is just ripping his kit apart.

Another prime example of jazz technicality in the form of a REAL drum battle


Hm that was awesome!
I'm always keen on listening to great drum solos but modern drummers just can't improvise good solos. They form a perfect member of a great band and they are amazingly skilled like some death metal drummers, Mike Portnoy, Mike Mangini.
But to be honest I've heard solos by the last two and... Some parts are good and some are horrible, hitting random drums as fast as it can be done but... This jazz drum "battle" was.. simply excellent! And still remained a good tasty music! :2thumbsup:
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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

Postby dertanz » Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:37 am

Jazz at it's best!

This is why Gavin Harrison is the best drummer alive... To be quite honest, I don't consider death metal that complex (when it comes to drums, cause I have no idea about other instruments). I've been playing drums for over 14 years and death metal is more a matter of endurance, other than anything. When I see "monster drummers", like George Kollias, Inferno, Derek Roddy, Dave Lombardo, and others, all I see is guys trying to beat the crap out of a drum set instead of making music. Fast music (this is for every single genre), has never been synonymous of complex or good music. And about Animals As Leaders, well I think it's a great band, quite complex full of great musician, but they've made the same mistakes many bands have made which is being extremely repetitive. Just my 2 cents.

And I agree with Vedi and Mrstuprigge... Jazz.... That's about it, Miles Davis is a great start to blow your mind... And Dragonforce... seriously??? LMAO
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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

Postby aander91 » Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:59 am



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Really, what time signature is this in? What key?

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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

Postby porknchili » Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:32 pm

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This song is the s.hit in terms of polyrhythms.
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Postby aander91 » Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:04 pm

Truedat. The rest of the piece is just as nasty.
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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

Postby mrstuprigge » Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:47 pm

most of the talk here has been about complex rhythms so i thought i would bring up something a little different. In western music our tonal system is based on half-steps, but other parts of the world use semitones that our ears aren't trained to pick out. this alone kind of makes our music very simplistic in comparison just because there aren't as many notes to work with. trying to comprehend an african piece of music would require you to basically retrain your ears, which i guess would make it extremely technical.


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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

Postby aander91 » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:40 pm

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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

Postby Lysdestic » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:49 pm

Am I the only one that spotted "Words and Music by John Stump"?

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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

Postby vedicardi » Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:15 pm

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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

Postby SUSAltd » Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:10 am

I've seen that before...

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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

Postby kilipeti » Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:46 am

KenshinHimuraRK wrote:Image

okay, that's just a joke... I could write much more weird stuff if I would like to...
Could we just stay at metal and guitar playing?

-- Edit: Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:54 am --

dertanz wrote:This is why Gavin Harrison is the best drummer alive... To be quite honest, I don't consider death metal that complex (when it comes to drums, cause I have no idea about other instruments). I've been playing drums for over 14 years and death metal is more a matter of endurance, other than anything. When I see "monster drummers", like George Kollias, Inferno, Derek Roddy, Dave Lombardo, and others, all I see is guys trying to beat the crap out of a drum set instead of making music. Fast music (this is for every single genre), has never been synonymous of complex or good music. And about Animals As Leaders, well I think it's a great band, quite complex full of great musician, but they've made the same mistakes many bands have made which is being extremely repetitive. Just my 2 cents.

And I agree with Vedi and Mrstuprigge... Jazz.... That's about it, Miles Davis is a great start to blow your mind... And Dragonforce... seriously??? LMAO

Well, as for death metal, yes, it is usually not complex on drums (but there are unique exceptions), I was concentrating on the guitar. Technical death, deathcore and mathcore can be REALLY tight. There are - I guess - not much more than 100-200 people out there who can play that stuff at its best.

Animals as Leaders is just not in the league of the others. IMHO it's pretty f.ucking varied, tho there are patterns which remind of the others, like some tapping riffs, but... I love almost every song and that's unique, there are very few bands of which I love all single songs by. Also, as far as I'm concerned the drums are pretty awesome in that band.
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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

Postby Rapt0r » Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:37 am

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Re: Which do you think the most technical song is?

Postby kilipeti » Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:24 pm

Rapt0r wrote:Better

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Postby Rapt0r » Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:01 pm

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