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Re: What's your favorite browser?

Postby raph666 » Mon May 17, 2010 8:13 am

death_au wrote:You can use Firefox and still watch youtube without installing the flash plug in.

While Firefox indeed supports the <video> element, Youtube's H.264-encoded videos are not in Firefox's <video>'s supported media formats: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Media_ ... o_elements (I'm not a Opera user and I only researched quickly, but it seems that Opera goes in the same way as Firefox and decided not to support h.264)
Unless Youtube starts to use Theora's ogg video encoding or unless Mozilla decides to support the proprietary h.264, this means we won't be able to really enjoy Youtube on Firefox without the Flash plugin (which is sad, because YT's HTML5 player is now running very nicely, making it hard to want to go back to that rusty Flash player).
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Re: What's your favorite browser?

Postby slashfan7964 » Mon May 17, 2010 4:41 pm

I personally enjoy Internet Explorer, BUT I do like the fact that you can installed plugins in FireFox.
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Re: What's your favorite browser?

Postby death_au » Mon May 17, 2010 8:35 pm

raph666 wrote:
death_au wrote:You can use Firefox and still watch youtube without installing the flash plug in.

While Firefox indeed supports the <video> element, Youtube's H.264-encoded videos are not in Firefox's <video>'s supported media formats: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Media_ ... o_elements (I'm not a Opera user and I only researched quickly, but it seems that Opera goes in the same way as Firefox and decided not to support h.264)
Unless Youtube starts to use Theora's ogg video encoding or unless Mozilla decides to support the proprietary h.264, this means we won't be able to really enjoy Youtube on Firefox without the Flash plugin (which is sad, because YT's HTML5 player is now running very nicely, making it hard to want to go back to that rusty Flash player).

I'd heard a bit about this debate but for some reason was under the mistaken impression that youtube used h.264 AND Theora. Now that I think about it, that doesn't make much sense.
Also, I know Apple are going down the H.264 path as well and it seems Microsoft will too, and I don't have to look it up to work out google chrome will use whatever youtube / google video uses... which leaves Mozilla in an awkward spot, not supporting what everyone else is.
Then again, browsers like chrome and opera support both H.624 and Theora(1), by the sounds of things. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

1 - I'm not sure about opera. I've only seen people saying opera refuses to support H.264, but I can't find any solid information

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