EOF 1.7RC3

[raynebc]

Time for a new release candidate. New features since RC1:

-Raised the maximum grid snap interval to 64
-Adds custom time signature support for charting. Time signatures are still not written to the MIDI during save operations. Consistent with music theory and requirements of the MIDI specification, only time signatures with a denominator that is a power of two are accepted
-Adds support for marking Expert bass drum notes as Expert+ notes, which will appear in Phase Shift as Expert+ bass notes instead of Expert bass notes. An expert+.mid file will also be written during save if any Expert+ notes exist, for use in FoF

[SUSAltd]

Can the time signatures go into fractions? :D

[raynebc]

The numerator and denominator must be whole numbers. If there really is a lot of demand for nonstandard time signatures, we might add them, but just be forewarned that if we ever implement the use of time signatures during MIDI import and export, only standard time signatures will work.

[SUSAltd]

Hmm, is it possible for EOF to automatically add more song.ini lines (such as the album) by getting the information from the ID3 tags?

[raynebc]

Sure. Consider it done:
http://code.google.com/p/editor-on-fire ... tail?r=453

Based on the song.ini wiki page, the only other relevant ID3 tag would be the genre, but that would be somewhat of a pain to implement. If there is any real interest in this, I could probably work on it.

[Nathaniel607]

The numerator and denominator must be whole numbers. If there really is a lot of demand for nonstandard time signatures, we might add them, but just be forewarned that if we ever implement the use of time signatures during MIDI import and export, only standard time signatures will work.

Why would you want fraction fractions? I mean, a time signature is already a fraction, so do you mean having something like (1/2)/4? Using math you can see that's the same as 1/8. There's no reason you'd want to keep it like that.

You should allow assymetrical time sigs like 5/4, 5/8, 7/4, 7/8, 9/4, 9/8, 11/4, 11/8, 15/4, 15/8, 21/16, 11/16, 12/16 etc etc.

[SUSAltd]

Oh, you know...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signa ... r_variants

Just in case.

Also, time signatures aren't fractions. (1/2)/8 would be one sixteenth note per bar, where each bar is counted as eighth notes.

[jstump91]

Just so everyone knows, time signatures are representable in MIDI as long as the following two conditions hold:

• The numerator is a single integer.
• The denominator is a power of two.

A solution for getting compound time signatures to work might be to write the correct beats to an RBN-style BEAT track (I'd have no objections to adding support for the BEAT track to FoFiX if EOF adds it to MIDIs it generates) and write out a time signature event for the total net timesig. (For example, a timesig of (2+2+3)/8 would have a MIDI timesig event of 7/8 and notes in the BEAT track on the first, third, and fifth eighth notes of each measure.)

[SUSAltd]

Well... that would be a lot of copy and pasting.

Would the Starpower usage be affected in-game?

[raynebc]

That is much more involved than I'm ready to go at the moment. We'll work on standard time signatures and worry about the rest later. Speaking of which, for the people that bother using time signatures in their charts, is it sufficient to store the time signatures in the tempo track or do people want to get really crazy and have independent TS events for each instrument track?

[Nathaniel607]

Oh, you know...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signa ... r_variants

Just in case.

Also, time signatures aren't fractions. (1/2)/8 would be one sixteenth note per bar, where each bar is counted as eighth notes.

Well, yeah, [2(1/2)]4 is pointless. It's just 58.

I know time signatures aren't LITERALLY fractions - I understand them. But they are pretty much fractions. They operate like fractions, just they represent something. For example, if you had a bar of 5/8 followed by 4/4, you could - like fractions, add them together to get a bar of 13/8. If you had a bar of 6/√64 for some stupid reason, you'd have to, like in a fraction, rationalise the denominator to 8 .

Point is, any time signature you could represent as a fraction, you could also just represent it as a normal time signature.

@Raynebc

I don't think that would be very usefull.

[SUSAltd]

A piece written in 8/8 is written that way (rather than something simpler like 4/4) because of tempo, phrasing, and counting. So a time signature with fractions, though able to be written in a simpler form, would be written as a fraction for phrasing purposes.

But I guess in charting fractional time signatures don't really matter.

[Nathaniel607]

A piece written in 8/8 is written that way (rather than something simpler like 4/4) because of tempo, phrasing, and counting. So a time signature with fractions, though able to be written in a simpler form, would be written as a fraction for phrasing purposes.

But I guess in charting fractional time signatures don't really matter.

No, no no. Just no. Anyone using fractional time signatures is a pretentious arsehole.

[drihscol]

Fuzion hass got a hold of the RB3 .mids!
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=49539
Also, any chance of adding support for - delay in the song properties?

[raynebc]

I don't think negative MIDI delay is very feasible at this time, and I doubt it's something a high quality chart would use anyway. I would be very surprised if Harmonix started using nonzero delay values after all this time. Once more analysis has been done on the pro parts, I can look into pro charting support, but that will likely take the next several months.