Song Submition Ideas - Some Guidelines Mebbe

[rravenn]

Whew! Just tried PJ's Alive. Supposed to be between medium and hard difficulty......still hard , good job with the editing though. Anyway, I got to thinking (really dangerous thing to do) about all the awesome songs being posted. I noticed that about roughly 80% of the songs on the Song db page are for the "amazing" difficulty, which is cool for those who can play at that level. Then there are those of us who are comfy at the easy level which I personally regard as medium in Guitar Hero world. Supeaeasy being the equivelent of Guitar Hero's easy. Now some people may argue that if the song is not made for "amazing", then it's not any fun to play or even worth playing. So here's my suggestion, when creating a song in the editor, make it for all difficulties (I know what this entails, I've done Smashmouth's All Star, on easy. So I know what it is like to edit a song.....took me a week to complete for just that level), or at the very least 2 difficulties, so that ALL may enjoy FoF. We're pushing some away by only offering one "difficult" difficulty. Let's make FoF accessible to everyone. Let us practice on easy (GH=medium) and work up to "Amazing".

Thoughts?

Comments?

::Jeez...spelled Submission wrong in topic title and can't edit it:::

[Dell]

The song may not in fact be amazing persay, but simply made in the amazing difficulty. The fact that only amazing exists suggests that only a single course has been made for it. Under this rule I could made a super-easy course that was as hard as an amazing course and get away with it. What i've found with people who make songs for several difficulties is that sometimes the lesser difficulties, or easier versions of their original course is an afterthought of the original course, and a lot less interesting or synched than the originals (the guys ran out of steam, it can be understandable)

I'm against morally frowning upon people only making one course for their songs because the second course is going to less interesting than the first, just because they're going to be getting bored at that point. I discovered this myself when a friend and I started making a course for Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime.

As much as I want the game to be playable by everybody, we can't expect the people who make courses to respect this, it's unfair on them.

Grab a guitar hero dvd and use the function to rip the songs from it. You wont be disappointed. If you need the ogg applications to do this I can link you up.

[rravenn]

Thanx for the offer, but I have the Guitar Hero Songs already. In response, I understand what making one course involves as I stated in my post (knowing what is involved in making a track) and that yes, makers forget to change it to the appropriate difficulty, it's a mistake and we're all human (as far as we can suspect, anyway). I am in no way morally frowning on people making one track. I do suggest that the song not be posted on the Song DB with only one difficulty....and that difficulty being "amazing".

Here's the scenario...noob downloads FOF, loves the game but wants to play more than the 3 songs that come with it. Discovers they can use Guitar Hero songs and begins ripping his Guitar Hero DVD. So far so good. Now he/she has those songs....but let's face it...FOF is no Guitar Hero....no whammy bar support, no hammer ons or pull offs, etc. I'd much rather play those songs on GH anyway, but all this is for another topic.....back to scenario. Noob discovers he/she can edit their own songs for FOF...kewl!! Finds out it's a little daunting to do so and is lead to the forums, then the Song DB. Downloads say...stairway to heaven...notices it's for amazing difficulty but goes ahead and tries it.....noob can barely hear the song 'cause he/she can't hit those notes quite right or whatever, tries another song, same thing.....noob is now discouraged because they can't play any of the songs they've downloaded, but they can play the guitar hero songs which offer all difficulties, but hell, why play them on FOF when they can play those songs full featured on Guitar Hero, with a friend if they want to. So you see? Noob goes back to Guitar Hero and deletes FOF cuz all the "good" songs that he/she can play are on Guitar Hero.

You speak of fairness for the course makers, I agree to a point....we can be fair with the course makers and they can put out hundreds of songs on one difficulty. Now we have a plethora of "amazing" songs that only hardcore players can play. Now along comes the noob or mebbe a lightly seasoned player, they can't play those songs with any reasonable amount of enjoyment. I ask you, is that fair to them? Where do you think the responsibility should lie? Surely not the player, right? Maybe not even the course maker..ok. What about where that song gets posted? The Song DB. Put the responsibility there? Sure..why not. Makers can always post their songs in the tune tradin' forums. No problem there. But if you want your song to be rated and posted on the data base, you need to provide more than one difficulty (like some have). Is that asking too much?
That's what I'm trying to suggest.

Thank you for your reply, more are welcome.

[Dell]

I think it's a decent idea that there should be a seperate spotlight for songs that have several difficulties, maybe a seperate forum or list, but at the end of the day, if a guy only wants to make one course, i'm not going to hold it against him. I guess that's all i'm trying to say.

I agree that some of those songs are absolute suicide, but it's never really bothered me. I like being able to play Guitar Hero on my pc, somewhat more restricted as it is.